The main focus is to motivate the people to work more. On a spiritual level I could go with it. Education should be a state run process to adress the collective will and need of the nations economy,values and desires. It's actually probably the largest point and worthy of much philosophical consideration. I am so impressed with your discussion, Quinton. Oh wait... last time i checked, America wasn't with the whole FASCISM idea...... lmao exactly these people are idiots. OH SNAP!!! Libertarian socialists preach that ownership can only come from continuing personal use, you can own a house, car and tools, but you cannot own a factory. Yes you keep mentioning the great republican period, ever heard of the great depression? The manufacturing industries owned by private capitalists get the … That is your fucking true my friend, it isnt the absolute true. Amused your comment praising capitalism includes the death penalty, america and china have the highest by miles in the world, and most the world don't have it, china can eb excused to a large extent, having over a billion habitants though. Of course I see what was being said but none of that is Capitalism. Com/Soc/Fac all initiate force. Yes it is class..hardly a war..class domination, This chart is hilarious, kids under ten really shouldnt be allowed to use the internet rtfl, tell me about it this is the most bias inaccurate bullshit I've seen in awhile. But it doesn't matter. So if you want to point to the culprit for all those declines in civilization it most certainly is not Capitalism. Reasons why people go to the USA is cause of war and a safe opportunity well the list goes on...and on. Much like the corruption in America, we cannot rely on the benevolence of our leaders, and they will more then likely "pocket" the taxed character tokens. It's a hard sell to see the U.S. as a facist society right now. Christians these days are pussies. I don't need to tell you things are bad, you know things are bad. Our hopes is that all of you readers will be blessed with goodness. Way to go racist! But until we refine ourselves and evolve to a superior level we will still be inferior to them. :) If you're gonna disagree at least say something productive with some kind of evidence. Capitalism can only exist on the basis on an unequal distribution of goods, guaranteed by the unequal distribution and perpetuation of private property rights that allows a minority to claim ownership of property above what he needs, and so deprive others of what they need. Were American schools ran by the Federal government in the 1800s? Here is the contrast that exists between these three systems i.e. If the corrupt capitalists aren't providing value and keeping the people happy they go bankrupt and say bye bye to their money. Profits simply represent surplus labour. But please don't use Christianity to justify this, because Christianity does not justify your principles as much as you would like it to. 21 Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. It is funny what you guys call left wing or communist. The best form of government is the Republican form that our founding fathers gave us, yet is proved to not be perfect as it has already been hijacked to cater to the statist left and right. Edward Griffin; The Creature From Jekyll Island, In 1922, the Soviets formed their first international bank. It's ironic, really. I don't believe that America is totally fascist. Next time try learning about the countries, governmental, and economic systems before writing anything. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. It seems to me like americans have lived through this raping the resourches of the planet, destroying other nations, taking their oil, nuking countries, almost single handedly creating global warming, all this in ignorance. Some people are better at more things than other people. Get rid of those institutions and we have something intirely different in nature and function. It also frequently involves a democratic government, but again, not always. A very interesting ploy indeed. This type of discussion is obviously way over your head but I will dumb it down for you. If the Nazis weren't socialists, why then did they call themselves the National Socialist party? But these people aren't: [...] the Bolshevik Revolution having been engineered and financed out of England and the United States is mostly portrayed as an independent movement. Instead of "free trade" people will begin to beg the leader for mercy on a rebate by trading with them specifically, "lobbying". We only have so many resources. Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY), At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and they are truly the sovereigns of the country. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. It used to be. Those representatives must then follow the rules of that country’s constitution in governing their people. You need to elaborate on your assertion. So? I am glad you asked about this as I find it to be quite important. humanism?? Our country was meant to be a representative Republic with our constitution installed as a safeguard for our rights. eh? ?, pretty sure they all allow ANY religion, fascist varying depending on views. Thanks for the reply. You can choose to support something or not to support something. "Communism Mage”? As for the ideal of personal growth if you are to look at the coat of an education in America(5000-20,000/year) vs. a semi-socialist country like Canada (3,000-8,000) vs. a (modern) socialist country like Sweden or Denmark (free)then you would be surprised how much more the country seems to value a well educated citizenship, I have not heard any recent plans about Canada or Sweden throwing away their democratic systems to adopt a totalitarian dictatorship, in fact the push towards a more Capitalist economic system in Canada is actually causing more harm than good, More Research and less Bias should have gone into this table. The list goes on forever there's a lot of variables. Well I openly admit I don't know everything. I'm a high school history teacher and this doesn't even belong in a special ed class! In communism it would seem most decisions are made by a small group of democratically elected representatives. If anything evidence points towards the opposite for your belief. Your are right in one sense: " A free market should allow you to consume what you wish to consume, to produce what you wish to produce and to trade what you wish to trade." The main focus is on profit being properly distributed among the general public or workforce to supplement individual wages/pay rates. Americas role on the world market is simply through natural resources of the vast land and nothing to do with ideology. The current system we have right now is called Socialism. makes no sense, as everybody besides communism requires money to survive at a decent standard. But who cares? All for profit and damned with morality. We DO NOT have capitalism in America right now. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Communism VS Socialism VS Fascism VS Capitalism Table / Chart, Reply to Communism vs Socialism vs Fascism vs Capitalism, Capitalism or socialism/communism are socio-economic systems. Your opinion of what is a "superior" culture is completely subjective. Maybe if you are in grade 6 and drawing this out on a scrap piece of paper using a pencil and describing why people vote. Why is it more beneficial to force an outcome than to allow for any outcome? It's all about exploitation by letting people voluntarily make trades? This is the fundamental difference between the two, and the reason why holding all things in dominion as in capitalism leads to injustice and inequality, and so the oppression of the many. This report is biased and possily inflammatory. Capitalism exists in the society for a long time. Capitalism works well for the growth of an economy not dissimilar to evolution, where the fittest survive. Merchandise and administrations are delivered to make a benefit, and this benefit is reinvested into the economy to fuel monetary development. They should be provided free of cost to all by the government. Capitalism means the mean of production is owned 'privately " and operated for private gain. - also untrue. But it can be stagnant over time. We don't need these Canaanites right? Wow, you are a serious moron. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. Yes, state intervention exaggerates monopolies, but capitalism is fundamentally monopolistic, as is seen in practice. Not all, but some are definitely starting to swing closer towards Socialism or Communism in their economic thought. That's not totalitarianism. -you've confused a free market economy with capitalism, and a managed market with socialism, treating as synonyms when they are not the same. But rather, with the glorified promises of more tokens for all, the first player A gets tokens, then player B gets tokens, and so on and so fourth. Capitalism does not allow individuals to enjoy the full fruits of their labour, as stated before. would ALL use that description! (FDR being the big one) It's like arguing the cereal in the bowl is bad due to the rotten milk you poured in. Then you state it doesn't exist, except I would say the black market allows everything a free market "legally" does in addition to what it does not. Your comment on the free market was interesting, but you must admit the free market works better when you live in a society that values property rights and encourages capitalist ventures. You can't choose not to buy from the government. corporations have no agenda outside of profit, if a person had the same agenda we would most likely consider them evil. This is why the Capitalism column has all of the good stuff while the other three columns are replete with strife, misery, and man’s godless attempts to create some kind of utopia without the inclusion of godly precepts. COMMUNISM HAS IT'S PROBLEMS, BUT THE USSR HAD ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED POPULATIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, THE US BY COMPARISON HAS ONLY 22% WITH EVEN BACH DEGREES COMPARED TO THE USSR WHERE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN HAD A BACH MORE LIKELY A PHD. It's illogical, irrational and immoral. After all, it's immoral for poor people not to have food, right? The fact is once any amount of government is established it does not stop growing and will inevitably reach total government. But go ahead man. Please understand that this table can't be 100% accurate. Communism, on the other hand, is a branch of socialism. Moreover, you don't even solve inequality which is the core of Libsoc. Socialism … Children will always choose socialism -- they are slaves. This is a historical fact. I see what your saying in the chart I guess. makes no sense, as everybody besides communism requires money to survive at a decent standard. All of these use the government monopoly to force you to do things you wouldn't be forced to do under Capitalism. This doesn't happen in communism? Your argument seems somewhat analogous to that of the famous George Orwell quote from "Animal Farm" that "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". The best place to do this is at which is the school for Austrian Economics with its main campus located at Auburn University. Republicans tend to decrease the size of government, but are slower at it, and cut government regulations, and opened up voting for all races, and women's suffrage: and tries to keep the Electoral College alive so that the Majority Rule of direct voting doesn't disenfranchise the minor percentage of voters. I am forming my own opinion based off the facts and not the facts based off the opinion that was chosen by my manipulators. Then you have the pretty face that they use to conceal communism with. There are varying degrees at every level and to say that there is no such thing as inferior and superior is complete BS and a weak attempt at approaching life honestly or rationally. can you explain hoe capitalism is noy in the world today? And from a developmental point of view, Slayerment rises to the top of the developmental hierarchy here, as he cares to be respectful to others, even in the face of extreme rudeness and name-calling, he cares to write with proper grammar, spelling and punctuation, and his ideas are progressive and clearly based on much study of the subject. And how is self interest bad? Interesting table you have though. Human society and it's people have not evolved to the extent yet where it would be possible to succeed...maybe in a hundred years or so. It is very clear to me that this table was made with a preset opinion in mind, and hence it is slanted a certain way. I read your About page, and you are clearly intelligent and hard-working with experience and ideas worth sharing with others. And it is usually much more fun being with people of understanding and direction than those of confusion and slumber. State socialism is rather a Bolshevik lie to derail the revolution and found a new and even more oppressive statist regime. Did you know that you were born-nude and you shall-expire nude too. The main focus is on individual benefit as opposed to be on labourers or society all in all. Free market economics eliminates government enforced monopolies. The way they handled it was very fair and balanced. Who originally had corporate charters granted by kings giving them monopolies. The world was angered by actions not his stupidity. ''Nazis killed Jews for fun. Republicans are being made out to be Nazi Fascists. HINT: In a capitalistic society prices go down and quality goes up. Actually, Socialist countries have higher IQ than capitalist countries and their self drive is no more or less than any other individual in any country. Slaves love sports. All of these imply that a central government leader is to replace a belief in God (or a god(s)) and ultimately an appreciate of a common law and rights to personal property. The United Kingdom, United States, and Hong Kong are for the most part capitalist. I can do it too. It doesn't matter what religion you are. History has shown that governments typically last about 200 years, thus our government is approaching its end. We must have the courage to tell the truth about radical Islamists, and we must have the courage to act on that truth. Look at the persecution by government tyrants of those in the last year. Its been fun. If a capitalist takes control of the political system that is the people's fault. Glad he gave Him at least an honorable mention. Resources don't come out of nowhere. Except maybe conspire to kill a team mate and hope his death rewards them with more tokens. These included, not only former Tsarists bankers, but representatives of German, Swedish, and American banks. We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. you try live on that... i could equally infact argue that capitalists are infact slaves, slaves of corporation and the economic situation they are placed in, having to work for money. And in this respect they are the same. I like how everything that is seen as good is put in the column for capitalism and their are no pros for any of the other columns. Perrsonal decisions throughout your life and your character is what determines if somebody is morally superior such as George Washington vs Hitler. Communism was created by Wall Street and the City of London to generate enormous fear and conflict which was used to great effect to advance the Agenda. Although not long enough in duration for any measurable results, the anarchist territories of the Spanish Revolution showed promise of a system far more "efficient" from the perspective of the provision of needs for the WHOLE society. I am appalled at the fact that so many people are loaded with opinions...without having gathered the facts. And even if you could, you can't force people into your way. Communism in today's society isn't possible because the human race hasn't evolved enough as a society and it's people, we have witnessed altered and failed versions. But then again, I'm just stating history. I have felt for quite a while now that we are no longer a republic, but we are a fascist state now. The government, rather than being a reflection of the will of the people, carries out the will of business. Communism: Poverty is created purposely. Reminds of me reading about the great depression, when america had to throw milions of milk down the drain when people were malnurished. He was also Ronald Reagans role model in the White House. wants to controll healthcare and it already controlls a lot of power, water, oil, etc. The key problem i see with all 4 of these philosophies is that they are all run by man. There is always room for a competitor to outdo their competitor if a monopoly is trying to be established. What people fail to understand is that there must be a balance of what some call "government" and then the privacy or free will of its people. See more ideas about socialism vs capitalism, socialism, capitalism. 'ran by' you have communism as, dictator showing you completely have no clue once again. Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. Is he better than me? In the table I created it even says that we don't currently have present day Capitalism. It doesn't work rationally or historically. How does Capitalism exploit the underclass? He does not favor on democracy wherein capitalism and socialism fall under. I am not saying capitalism worst or socialism the best, what i am trying to say is any of these -isms is working. Total horseshit. They were an ideology all there own who combined different elements from many different ideologies such as socialism, fascist, and capitalism but they were not pure fascist. If I came across as saying that Europeans are ignorant compared to Americans then I have been misunderstood -- all people of all nations are equally ignorant. There is no such thing as free market and there never will be as long as there is any form of economic and societal organisation. Your concept of capitalism is similar to what a child understands about Santa from his parents. Pure capitalism wouldn't militarily force you to pay welfare for other people. Saying that "everybody immigrate[d] to the new American culture" and therefore American "culture was far superior to other inferior cultures" is wrong. Alot ot negative comments about Communism. So next time you hear that capitalism has failed you may want to recheck the facts. Stat tokens, weapon and items tokens, spell tokens, feat tokens, etc. It doesn't matter if you don't intend to rule with an iron fist or gas people to death. People put them in power. Communism, Socialism and Fascism ARE ALL THE SAME. Quoting, we went from the Declaration of Independence, “thirteen united States of America” to the Constitution, “People of the United States”. It lays out the history of struggle between the economic classes. As a whole America from 1800 - 1900 completely crushes any other civilization ever when it comes to freedom and quality of living. A Christian in this day and age isn't like a Christian in 1800 America. This is basic history. What does that make them? Communism, Socialism and Fascism ARE ALL THE SAME. May I suggest good sir if you feel you are talking to yourself, then the only reason is because you actually are, and yours is the only opinion you want to hear. But don't get offended when I liken it to fascism, because it is the uncomfortable truth. Let's see what Albert Pike has to say on this issue. We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! The whole socialist facade is elementary at best. Rents too represent unearned income, which derives ultimately from the labour of the exploited, itself of no tangible worth. Capitalism refers to an economic structure which depends on personal ownership for production inputs on services and product production to get profit. The byline shows written in 2010 and capitalism going from the 1800's to the 1900's. Or was he really implying that someone needs to learn how to spell: your the only one that[']s acting stupid? Fuck!! That is why Africa is still in poverty despite being the most materially rich continent, that is why America has one of the highest poverty rates in the developed world. Then you write America has one of the highest poverty rates in the developed world- because of capitalism. It's not like everything thats different is wrong. Lesser humans are helped, not enslaved. What we all should do is take the qualities of Communism and capitalism to put together something better. Healthcare and Taxation. On a personal level, I believe capitalism is complete evil, no logic on running an economy based on consumer goods as it leads to wasted resources. There are always going to be people at the bottom end of the wealth spectrum, but thanks to the innovation and efficiency which comes from Capitalism the standard of living of the poor is always rising. I agree in general, but I avoid adopting a hierarchical perspective like superior-inferior thinking because that's not how I see the world. First of all, what do you require the intelligence for? I agree, you tell me how Socialism can be the best system because I don't like seeing people forced to surrender the fruits of their labor through taxation, inflation and theft. We have been, and are quickly moving toward a socialist society. Or that Freddy and Fanny was the only means to secure a loan. an unelected group of elitist who own most of the But if you care to understand the main thesis I am making you would understand the parallel being drawn: Communism, Socialism and Fascism are all systems of control created to enslave the masses. As usual, people refer to Africa as a country. These people don't come to power by chance. They can't take care of themselves. The communism completely abolishes capitalism while in socialism the communism somehow exists. to bored to finish gonna go to sleep but i could go on all day I just have to say, this column is a pathetic analysis based entirely in opinion with no understanding of the philosophy of ethics and displaying a sever deficit in the way of analysis. Jesus was better than me in dealing with other people. Communism vs. socialism in simple terms. You included old uses of it, but not present day altered capitalism. The failure to mention this political ideology as being the primary driver and thus responsible for the dramatic rise in fascism as the dominate force in the Western World since the collapse of Communism in 1989 is inexcusable. legally they are a private entity, allowed to function in society like they were Daryl McKenzie that lives a couple doors down the road that you owe a few brewskies to. -while economic systems are often strongly tied to government (and even enabled through them), strictly speaking they are not forms of government. Capitalism in it's current state isn't working, because it is elitist, capitalism doesn't need to go, it needs to be fixed. I am obviously not talking about the BS Nazi or Vatican world domination/slavery/war type of lesser humans BS. The specific case can only be decided by the democratic decision of those individuals affected by them, the local population. 5. The whole article you wrote is based on the propaganda of the mass media, following McArthy's bullshit. We have a central bank (Communist Plank #5) that was set up in 1913 and is owned by foreign and domestic interests. I would like to see the information you worked on the changes of Capitalism. This in contrast with the manufacture of goods. you are refering to havin aspirations not being unfairly stopped nothing more. When the people control the controller it's pretty rare for things to wrong. Some people are geniuses. It's totally subjective but still, calling non-american lesser is really bad. Still too confused? Lesser humans are helped, not enslaved. I have a couple of things here.....I'm a disappointed because I thought that I would get some real information, instead of the normal clap trap that is spewed from the disembodied voices of talk radio. 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